Comments on: Perl Myths http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/ Listen. Reflect. Explore. Solve. Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Encouraging newcomers to stick with Perl | Technical Blog by NET-A-PORTER http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-2850 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:31:29 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-2850 [...] all the Perl is dead / Perl is not dead talk, I think we’re in a unique position to actually do something positive about the [...]

]]> By: infomisa.net» Blog Archive » Three Days in Columbus: YAPC 2010 – Day 2 http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-1947 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:24:53 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-1947 [...] Lakoff pointed out that we should should be saying that “perl is alive” (instead of negating a frame). Mr. Lakoff makes a good point, but the lame “perl is dead” frame is so widely [...]

]]> By: Miscelânia de Domingo – Lá e de Volta, um blog de viagens pelo mundo «Lá e de Volta http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-1537 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:01:47 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-1537 [...] Mitos do Perl [en] – Apresentação quebrando três mitos da linguagem, o de que ela está morta, de que é difícil de ler, testar e manter, e de que o Perl 6 está matando o Perl 5. [...]

]]> By: Help me update my Perl Myths talk for 2009 « Not this… http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-1084 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:21:45 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-1084 [...] to be speaking at the OSS BarCamp in Dublin in September. Given the likely audience I think my Perl Myths talk would be a good [...]

]]> By: BP http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-326 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:18:58 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-326 Outstanding slideshow! Having worked with a variety of languages on various platforms (C, Java, Visual Basic, Ruby/Rails, and Perl) I have to say that Perl is my favorite. However, one area that I feel has always held perl back is the lack of an easily integrated graphical user interface. There’s Tcl and a few others, but those I have tried were either lackluster or a serious pain to get working properly. Recently I’ve been playing with the free version of the Adobe Flex SDK and I have to say that I think it is a great fit with perl. I’ve been able to very quickly whip up some tools at our shop using perl to do the heavy lifting, Flex for presentation, and XML for the communicating between the two.

Happy coding.

]]> By: TimBunce http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-299 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:01:47 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-299 More interesting language job trend graphs: http://www.odinjobs.com/blogs/careers/entry/perl_php_python_and_ruby

]]> By: اساطير و خرافات حول البيرل ! « White Wolf http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-298 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:37:25 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-298 [...] http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/ [...]

]]> By: Foxconn! | Steven Harms' Blog http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-274 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:00:46 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-274 [...] Perl myths: It’s still alive! [...]

]]> By: Perl Myths - OSCON 2008 « Not this… http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-273 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:23:22 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-273 [...] pm Tags: conference, graphs, jobs, perl6, presentation, trends I gave a updated version of my earlier Perl Myths talk at OSCON this year. It includes updated numbers, updated job trend graphs (showing good growth in [...]

]]> By: Pradeep http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-240 Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:10:10 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-240 Awesome write-up! And yeah, kudos to you for the DBI module.

]]> By: jwaph http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-230 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:30:57 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-230 Thanks for your sharing…nice slide presentation.

]]> By: Christopher Cashell http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-180 Wed, 14 May 2008 21:45:35 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-180 To Zbigniew: How many of those startup founders were working on web apps? I’m betting all or most of them?

While Catalyst looks awesome (I’m going to be playing around with it in the imminent future for a project I have in mind), it still seems relatively new and a lot of people aren’t familiar with it. In the web app arena, PHP, Rails, etc, seem to be the best known and most popular solutions. Perl just isn’t considered as a first tier solution for new web apps (although hopefully Catalyst will change that).

When you look at non-web app startups, I would expect perl to be much more common. It may not be the focus of the company, and they may not be building a single huge application in it, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it showing up somewhere.

I can say that the company I work for isn’t too far from being a startup, and while we’re currently rewriting a major perl application in Java (because our Dev manager loves all things Java), but even so, new small projects are constantly being done in Perl just because it works so well.

]]> By: TimBunce http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-136 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:50:17 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-136 Was just reminded of Simon Cozens’ “Ten Perl Myths” aryicle from 2000. Still worth a read: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2000/01/10PerlMyths.html

]]> By: Daily Find #48 | TechToolBlog http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-105 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:37:05 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-105 [...] Perl Myths – A while ago in a place far, far away I use to like doing Perl. [...]

]]> By: Zbigniew Lukasiak http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-99 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:37:48 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-99 I recently had an opportunity to talk to many startup founders. What they used was raging from Ruby (with Rails) to Python (with Django) to PHP to Haskel to Erlang, but not even one used Perl. The sample was not that small (on the level of dozens) and quite diverse – but there no methodology used to choose it so it is just anecdotal evidence – but it might be showing that there is something missing from the picture that you get from your statistics. Perhaps Perl while still widespread in the established business is not present at all in the new companies?

]]> By: THIRD RAIL » Blog Archive » Long Live Perl http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-94 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:40:27 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-94 [...] I was happy to see this presentation by Tim Bunce about how perl is still alive and well. [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-03-19 < Styled Bits http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-91 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:26:58 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-91 [...] Tim Bunce on Debunking Perl Myths Good for the community. I that language rank exists in two realms: the objective (how often it is used) and the subjective (marketing influence to confuse us as to how often it is used). (tags: programming languages perl) [...]

]]> By: TimBunce http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-90 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:23:12 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-90 Ana Nelson was in the audience and sent me this email (which she gave permission to post here):

Hi, Tim,

I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your talk at the IWTC today. I was the ruby agitator sitting in the front row. :-)

I had a pretty open mind about perl (read: I didn’t know anything about perl) before your talk, but I had never looked very closely at it. I have to say I will be paying a lot more attention in future, probably not to learn perl (although I won’t say never) but certainly to get ideas and inspiration.

I was also really amazed by the level of detail you are able to get from devel::cover. I currently use rcov, but that can only give line-based coverage. Based on your answer to my question about how that works, I can sort of imagine how better ruby coverage tools could be developed, perhaps using Rubinius instead of MRI.

Anyway, it was very nice meeting you. Thank you again for a very interesting and informative talk.

Kind regards,
Ana Nelson

]]> By: TimBunce http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-89 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:15:13 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-89 chromatic comments in http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/03/perl_56_and_parrot_myths_debun.html

]]> By: Jon http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/03/08/perl-myths/#comment-88 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:39:26 +0000 http://timbunce.wordpress.com/?p=23#comment-88 (Jon from #7 here)

Thanks for the locally hosted version, Tim. I’m enjoying it very much.

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